Address
by Israel's Vice PM and FM Tzipi
Livni
to the 8th Herzliya Conference
"Not
only can Israel not allow a terrorist state to rise by its side,
but the international community also cannot afford another terrorist
state in its midst"
"I
believe that Israel does not have to apologize for its existence
or for defending its citizens, and Israel will
continue to take action and fulfill
its duty toward the citizens of the State of Israel, even at the price of
condemnation. "
-
Israeli Vice President and Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni
Address
by Vice Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs
Tzipi Livni to the 8th Herzliya Conference (Translated
from Hebrew)
(IFM) Good
evening, everyone. This conference is a mark of Israel’s
national resilience. I believe that national resilience is
first of all a true ability to cope with difficult situations,
challenges and threats. It also means the public’s
sense of confidence in the government’s ability to
cope with these threats, and cohesiveness around a common
goal. All of these bear great significance for leadership
and government.
The government
and leadership can create the response to a threat or a complicated
situation. They can give the public a feeling of confidence.
They can also unite the public around a common cause or goal.
No doubt about it, the easiest thing is creating a common
cause around a threat. But that must not be the leadership’s
sole message.
In addition,
the relations between the leadership and the public needs
to be based on truth. Truth is mandatory even if it is difficult
to cope with a certain threat and to market the truth. Because
what is worse is the thought that the option of immediate
response exists, but just is not used. This, ladies and gentlemen,
is the worst option. It is incomprehensible and frustrating.
The government as well as the opposition is obliged to cope
with the truth about the threats facing us.
Israel
celebrates 60 years of independence this year, and the public
in Israel is undeniably united around the sense of a threat,
while the common cause or goal is actually deteriorating.
I will
reiterate what I think that common cause is, and I will keep
repeating it like Cato the Elder. I believe this is the writing
on the wall and it has ramifications on how we conduct ourselves
both internally and externally with others. This shared,
supreme goal of the State of Israel is its survival as a
Jewish and democratic state, with these two values intermeshed
rather than clashing, and a safe state in the Land of Israel.
Internal
and external decisions both derive from this supreme goal.
I will name only a few of our many internal challenges -
those that derive from the supreme goal. First, we need to
anchor the fundamental principles of the State of Israel
as a Jewish and democratic state in a way that integrates
the two things. This has to be effected through a state constitution
and unfortunately the Knesset has so far failed to do this.
The translation
needs to be fundamental democratic principles of freedom
and equality alongside national symbols of the Jewish people,
without imposing them on the private lives of any citizen
of the State of Israel; the Law of Return, as it represents
the existence of Israel as a national home for the Jewish
people, and the rule of the law.
The other
challenge is to enforce these principles in governmental
conduct. Lately there has been an unfortunate attempt to
create some kind of partisanship, with the politicians in
one camp and the lawmakers in another camp, and I find this
distinction unacceptable. I don’t accept these camps
because these are two pillars of Israeli democracy. I cannot
accept the divisiveness created against the agents of law
enforcement and review, just as I cannot understand how someone
can give up and despair of politics, because politicians
are also obligated to maintain the rule of law. In all respects,
this is also our responsibility. Debate is legitimate; and
believe me, I have been party to many a debate, but the de-legitimization
of one of the parties, or the victory of one side, spells
a disaster for democracy.
In the
face of these challenges we also have to educate our children
based on these principles emphasizing the roots of the Jewish
people. The story of the State of Israel is, in my opinion,
not just the ultimate "Sabra" who suddenly appeared
here and grew up, born after the establishment of the State
of Israel. I think the meaning of being Israeli is connected
to the long history of the Jewish people, its annals and
culture, and the completely different expressions it took
on in each of the ethnic groups, the communities in the Diaspora
in which the Jewish people resided.
Since the
supreme goal includes the existence of the State of Israel
as a national home for the Jewish people, we have to strengthen
the bond with Diaspora Jewry, with whom we have one war on
three different fronts. One is over the existence of the
State of Israel as a national home for the Jewish people;
the second is the common war against anti-Semitism, which
is rearing its ugly head in various places throughout the
world; and the third front is the struggle we share with
the free world against the extremists.
This challenge,
expressed in the supreme goal, also takes on external expression.
We cannot close our eyes and we have to look at the problematic
process of de-legitimizing the existence of the State of
Israel as a national home for the Jewish people.
It is true
that any discussion of the physical existence of the State
of Israel receives our support, but what was taken for granted
in ’48 or ’47, the famous resolution passed by
the United Nations to end the conflict between the two peoples,
and the establishment of two states, one of them the Jewish
state, is unquestionably cast in doubt today. It is no longer
a given. The nations of the world, who will wholeheartedly
support the existence of the State of Israel, will be struck
dumb at best, and cast a doubt at worst, when asked to support
Israel’s existence as a national home as well, and
sometimes also ask what, in fact, is a Jewish state.
So these
two challenges, inward and outward, are intertwined, because
our ability to contend with the external process is related
to our ability to understand, represent and reinforce the
supreme goal, internally.
Not only
that, this process is being exploited in the struggle that
already exists between the moderates and the extremists.
Although we are at the forefront of the struggle, we are
not its cause for being. We are paying its price, in many
senses. Here you also have to look at the processes taking
place outside the borders of the State of Israel, from the
perspective of an alien from outer space would look and see
the earth spread out in front of him, and identify the trends.
We see the extremists gaining strength. It should be clear
that when say extremists, we’re also speaking of extremist
ideology, religious ideology, and a willingness to use force
and terror to spread that ideology and deny others the right
to hold their own opinions. We need to see this trend, because
later it will also have implications on our conclusions about
the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. We need to know and look
at these trends because a nationalistic conflict has a solution
whereas a religious conflict does not, certainly not a simple
one, since the idea behind it is an attempt to withhold someone
else’s rights.
These processes
can be expressed in a state like Iran, a country based entirely
on this extremist ideology. We can see them being expressed
in terrorist organizations, whether international ones like
Al Qaeda or Hamas, or in other places. We have to understand
there is a process in which countries become increasingly
weaker, with the strengthening of these terrorist organizations,
and the weaker these countries become, the more we lose the
ability to demand they take responsibility for everything
happening in their territory. Lebanon is an example, as is
the Palestinian Authority, and of course there is the additional
danger of the proliferation of nuclear weapons.
On the
other hand, on a positive note - I said it does not suffice
to look at the trends and threats. Understanding the threat
also creates new camps, and it must be understood that Iran
is a threat unrelated to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict
in the State of Israel. It’s clear that even if we
succeed in resolving this conflict tomorrow morning, Iran’s
ideology will not be altered. It’s also clear to Iran’s
neighbors and to the Arab and Muslim countries that Iran’s
interest does not lie in Israel and that Israel is only an
excuse in order to inflame the people at home and the radical
elements in their countries.
We can
also generate joint interests and actions to face the threat.
And in this matter you have to understand one clear thing.
The free world is also being observed by the states that
feel threatened by Iran; and we live in a neighborhood where
either you beat up the neighborhood bully or you join him.
Any hesitation by the international community is immediately
perceived, in our neighborhood, as weakness. So this is not
just for the benefit of the State of Israel; when you understand
the threat in this context, you understand that the threat
is regional and global. The world cannot allow itself any
kind of weakness in facing the Iranian threat. Just as it’s
understood that Iran poses a common threat, neither does
anyone want to see Hamas succeed. In almost every one of
these Arab and Muslim countries is a group of the Moslem
Brotherhood threatening the regime from within. So it is
also understood that the threat from Hamas today inside the
Palestinian Authority is not only against Israel but also
comprises a threat at home.
Therefore,
in light of understanding the new threats as well as understanding
the new opportunities and common interests, we are taking
steps regarding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
I am going
to take this opportunity to answer some questions I know
are being asked and the first question that is often asked
aloud is in fact, “Why a peace process?” In response
to this question, I go back to the supreme goal. Anyone who
understands that the supreme goal of the State of Israel
is the existence of a Jewish and democratic state, with these
values intertwined and not clashing with each other, understands
the need for separation.
Anyone
who wishes to uphold all the principles of the supreme goal,
i.e. a Jewish, democratic, safe state in the Land of Israel,
understands that you have to relinquish part of the Land
of Israel, in order to retain the sovereignty of a Jewish
state over the other part. This understanding, ladies and
gentlemen, is shared by almost all the political elements
in the State of Israel, except those who see the goal not
as the supreme goal I depicted but as being the existence
of Jews in all areas of the Land of Israel, so that for them
each passing day is perhaps a kind of victory.
But I wish
to speak about those who share the supreme goal I presented,
those who understand that this is the right thing to do.
I know there are some who won’t say these things aloud,
and won’t tell the truth about the need for partition
aloud, maybe so as not to lose political support, or to keep
their options open. Even those who speak in terms of economic
maneuvers in order to avoid a political decision, need to
know and do know that the financial aspect is only part of
the solution rather than a substitute for a solution.
We are
not going to have a new Middle East of partnership, but we
are in a process of separation by consensus, for the sake
of all our children, and so we can continue to maintain the
independent identity of each side.
The second
question, and it’s a legitimate one, is, “Why
now? Why not wait?” I will go back to the processes
that we see happening. We see the extremists replacing the
pragmatists, seizing control, taking over another territory,
another place, national conflicts becoming religious ones,
so even as fundamental Israeli positions are eroding over
time, we are obliged to try and see whether we have a common
denominator with the pragmatic elements in the Palestinian
Authority. That is our duty, and right now, because time
is working against anyone who identifies the supreme goal
as being the State of Israel’s primary interest.
I know
that the current reality is much more complicated. I see
the problems on the ground. Gaza is being completely controlled
by a terrorist organization. The pragmatists have no power
whatsoever right now in Gaza. I also see the difficulties
the pragmatic elements have in taking action in the West
Bank. But just as I believe that we cannot permit ourselves
to close our eyes to the problems and this difficult reality,
I also believe that closing our eyes to the processes that
occur in the absence of action is a mistake we cannot afford.
Failure to act also has its price. So it is the right thing
to start this process and advance it now.
How do
we reconcile the disparity between the reality and the aspiration
on the other side, after I’ve placed the problems on
the table? We made a decision in principle to advance the
process with the pragmatic elements in the Palestinian Authority,
with the goal, the assumption, and the hope that it is possible
to reach understandings with them, but also with an awareness
of the existing situation.
We decided
on the bridge between the reality and the aspiration at Annapolis.
We resolved to start the process by entering a dialogue with
the pragmatic elements under the assumption, understanding
and hope that we can reach an understanding with them, while
we stated, with the agreement of the Palestinians and the
support of the entire world, that the implementation would
be subject only to the actual execution and necessary changes
on the ground in full compliance with the Roadmap, before
the establishment of the Palestinian state. And of course
in our eyes the highest priority is security. So if the Palestinians
cannot become a true, effective political address - and I
hope they can, the kind that controls its territory, can
respond to terror, and also accepts the principles set forth
by the Quartet, of accepting the State of Israel, recognizing
prior agreements and repudiating terror - only then, if they
go through this whole change, can we continue to move towards
establishing a state for them.
Nevertheless,
this is not enough, because the situation on the ground is
quite different. We decided to adopt a dual strategy in our
relations and conduct with the moderates, the pragmatists,
on one hand, and the extremists, Hamas, on the other. This
policy is entirely different and the part that can be applied
stems, among other things, from the fact that the Palestinians’ internal
ideological division has actually also been expressed in
territorial terms. While Gaza is being completely controlled
by Hamas, and we have to take action there, we can also see
that the party with whom we can make progress is still the
pragmatic elements who control Judea and Samaria. even if
they don’t have total control, even with the generous
help of the Israel Defense Forces, But let it be clear, Gaza
is there and will have to be addressed.
I know
there is also distrust along the lines of, “Well, you
are negotiating and there will be an agreement, but it won’t
be worth the paper it’s written on.” Whether
or not that’s true depends first of all on what is
in the agreement, before we even reach the stage of implementation.
Because I think that even in a situation where future implementation
fails, the paper, the agreement, if we get there and I hope
we do, will be worth something, if it affixes the strategic
Israeli interests in writing. It will have value if the solution
agreed upon is the only one on the table, anchored and supported
by the international community as well, and it’s clear
that it isn’t just the starting point for the next
thing, and if it really turns into the only plan for resolving
the conflict and replaces some resolutions, whether UN resolutions
or Arab initiatives which to date have been the only game
recognized by the international community, and this is not
to our benefit.
For these
reasons, Israel is entering the process, not under compulsion
to satisfy some Palestinian or international need, not in
a state of not believing in the process, but because it needs
to be done, not out of contrition, not out of blindly saying
the most important thing is that something be written down
on paper, no matter the content. We are entering this process
with the clear knowledge of what the goal is and what the
subjects on which Israel will have to insist are. We need
to reinforce this in the agreement, because we cannot do
nothing or else throw the keys to the other side of the border
and hope for the best.
In the
context of conducting the peace process, we have to determine
the goals, delineate Israel’s national and security
interests, understand what the deal-maker is on the Palestinian
side, what the deal-breaker is on our side, and identify
the common denominators. We have to understand that this
is not a zero-sum game. All in all, as I see it, entering
negotiations is not a gift we are giving the other side,
or a present to the international community, but an attempt
to ground and anchor the State of Israel’s interests
with the pragmatic elements on the Palestinian side, with
the understanding of course, that they too have legitimate
interests they are trying to anchor.
As we operate
according to the twofold strategy, we are working from top
and bottom. We are trying to reach an agreement between us,
while in parallel we are insisting on changes on the ground,
starting now. We want to see the changes, we want to see
the war on terror, and we want to make economic changes so
the Palestinians will see they have a chance when they support
the pragmatic group. At the same time, the strategy demands
that we also address what is happening in Gaza.
Gaza is
not some story in the distant south. Gaza is a problem that
needs to be addressed. Speaking of responsibility, Gaza is
controlled by a terrorist organization called Hamas, and
it is responsible for what is happening there. I do not buy
into all sorts of distinctions about who shot at us on a
particular day, if it was this organization or that organization,
and what the name was of the specific operative. The responsibility
lies with Hamas, which decided to take over Gaza and rule
there. The territory is under its control and it is responsible
for what happens there. Hamas is a problem not just because
today it is employing terror, but also because its ideology
does not bear any hope for the future, neither for us nor
for the Palestinians. We have to act because a nation under
attack needs to respond.
I would like to say to all the representatives of the international community
who are here today, that terror is terror is terror. I hope that attempts to
understand why it happens are a thing of the past. We were there. We left Gaza;
the occupation of Gaza is over. Israel can no longer be an excuse the Palestinians
use for inflicting terror on Israel. Israel got out of Gaza. It dismantled
its settlements there. No Israeli soldiers were left there after the disengagement.
Israel cannot live with a situation where rockets are fired at Israel and then
they come to us to help refill their supplies so they can prepare the next
set of rockets.
I’m
saying this today, because as we meet here, there is a discussion
in the UN Security Council with all sorts of ideas about
censuring us, and I say this as the Foreign Minister. Uzi,
you said that they are listening in capital cities all over
the world, so hear this. I believe that Israel does not have
to apologize for its existence or for defending its citizens,
and Israel will continue to take action and fulfill its duty
toward the citizens of the State of Israel, even at the price
of condemnation.
A few words
about the peace process. I have said that we are engaged
in two simultaneous processes, which makes things very complicated.
Lest it be misunderstood, when I say complicated that doesn’t
mean impossible. It is possible but just more complex. But
there can be no doubt that while we are conducting negotiations,
we will also see the processes that are problematic for us,
just as the Palestinians do not always feel overjoyed with
what Israel does, and today is apparently one of those days.
But if we indeed want to advance the process on these two
levels, we need to refrain from letting voices and problems
from the outside into the negotiating room.
That doesn’t
mean we’re ignoring the problems because at the same
time we need to respond to them and fight terror, and the
Palestinians will have to establish themselves and take the
necessary actions according to the Roadmap, just as Israel
committed to upholding its part according to the Roadmap.
But I know in advance that because of the complexity of this
parallel process there will be cries from time to time, to
me, or to my Palestinian colleague Abu Ala, not to enter
that room, because Israel attacked Gaza today, or there was
building in some settlement today. Heaven forbid, and I hope
it won’t happen, but I’m sure I will also hear
these cries when the Palestinians don’t manage to stop
some of the terrorist acts. But this will be exactly the
kind of populist shooting-yourself-in-the-foot that will
take place, and I don’t intend to surrender to it during
the process, because I understand that entering the negotiating
room is not a present that I’m giving the Palestinians
but what I need to do to represent the interests of the State
of Israel.
Another
warning note concerning the process. We are at the beginning
of the peace process. Two other principles regarding the
process itself on which we agreed with the Palestinians were
first of all that nothing is agreed until everything is agreed,
meaning, we are negotiating and we have a long road ahead
of us. And the second thing is that the discussions will
be quiet, without raising expectations. We aren’t going
to sit in a locked room, invite the world’s cameras,
and wait until white smoke comes out the chimney. I think
that both societies, Israeli and Palestinian, have paid a
heavy price for these kinds of high expectations, with disappointment
and terror coming in their wake. But some of the commitment
is also not to conduct these negotiations in public, exchanging
mutual accusations in the media, or starting to share what
happened yesterday in the negotiating room and what I’ll
say there tomorrow. So I’ll just settle for stating
the fundamental principles that I’m taking into the
negotiating room regarding the content of the future agreement.
First,
it has to be clear that any agreement that Israel agrees
to accept will have to be the end of the conflict - an end
to Palestinian national demands from the State of Israel
and the Jewish people. It has to be clear that the establishment
of a Palestinian state is the only and sole answer to the
national aspirations of every Palestinian everywhere, whether
he lives in Gaza, Judea and Samaria, in the territories,
a refugee camp, or in Israel - an Israeli citizen can remain
a citizen with equal rights in Israel, but there is a national
response to the collective Palestinian aspirations for a
Palestinian state. Its establishment is the end of these
national demands. I will not be party to a process in which
a state is established alongside Israel, and Israel is still
exposed to ongoing demands by refugees seeking to enter its
territory because some number was determined or for humanitarian
reasons.
Similarly,
it has to be clear that establishing a Palestinian state,
when it happens, removes from the State of Israel’s
agenda any collective demands of a nationalist nature by
Israeli citizens.
This is
the basis for entering the negotiating room. Neither can
Israel agree to establishing a terrorist state alongside
it, whether it be a radical Islamic government, which adopts
that course and ideology, or a moderate pragmatic government
that is weak and cannot enforce its control over terrorist
organizations.
So work
must be done, in parallel, to build up the pragmatic elements’ ability
to make changes on the ground and control all parts of the
future Palestinian state. The Roadmap is not sufficient in
this regard, because it talks about the processes required
up until entering discussions on a final settlement, but
the whole agreement has to protect our long-term security
interests. Israel will make territorial concessions, but
doing so will be dependent on the security question of what
is happening on the other side of the border. This is also
connected to demilitarization, what will happen during the
transition times, and the controls by air, sea and land.
These are not meant to make it more difficult or place obstacles
in the way, but to make the agreement possible. Not only
can Israel not allow a terrorist state to rise by its side,
but the international community also cannot afford another
terrorist state in its midst. The Palestinians themselves,
as I see it, understand today that Israel’s security
is not a favor they are doing us, just as establishing a
Palestinian state and the negotiations are not a favor we
are doing them, but rather that Israel’s security is
in their interest as well.
I know
that some also say, “OK, but actually we already know
what the formula is, so why start this whole process from
the beginning? We can draft it in a few sentences.” Some
go so far as to ask me, as if the agreement is something
paid for by weight, how many pages it will have, how many
lines, as if that would tell us how to relate to it. Of course
I don’t accept such questions, because the agreement
must not only advance us toward a solution, it also needs
to be one that can be implemented. Maybe it’s nice
to speak in general guidelines that can create the right
atmosphere, perhaps that sounds pleasant, but general guidelines
turn very problematic if they later prevent Israel from translating
the principles of which I spoke earlier - and I haven’t
yet really spoken about the principles related to setting
the future border - if they prevent us from implementing
them in practice, or if all kinds of formulations become
firmly fixed and turn into demands, or delegitimize significant
demands of ours in the future.
So this
isn’t about bothersome details that we intend to take
into the negotiating room. When we speak of strategic Israeli
assets, even if we reach the state of relinquishing them
in the future according to the agreement, this is not some
burden that has to be gotten rid of or just a territorial
conflict that we can fix by marking something on a map, just
as it’s not about a problem of the wording. The problem
isn’t just wording or territory. We need to resolve
this conflict in a way that gives expression to our concerns,
which do not stem from an unwillingness to make territorial
concessions but rather from our understanding the responsibility
of what will happen the day after.
I am also
familiar with the narrative, by the way, that talks of the
need for courage and brave decision-making. I’m all
for it, provided that it also be smart and responsible and
express our long-term interests, and not just a brave decision
of the moment.
The components
of the success of the whole process are not only on the bilateral
level that I have described in part. Two additional elements
are the circles encompassing the bilateral process. The first,
critically important, circle is the Arab world. Any agreement
is based on compromise. I know what our possibilities are
and I am willing to try them, but the nature of things in
a national conflict mandates that some concessions will be
asked - I don’t wish to define them right now - of
the Palestinians. If the Arab world doesn’t get off
the fence and support the Palestinians unconditionally, there’s
no chance for a leadership that can make all the decisions
necessary to really bring about an historic compromise.
The Arab
world getting off the fence means it doesn’t dictate
the outcome of the agreement. We’ve already had that.
Not to determine what they would want in the agreement, but
to give unconditional support to stand behind the pragmatic
Palestinian leadership, to understand there might be criticism
from radical elements in their own camp for taking a stance
between Hamas and Fatah, between Haniyeh and Abu Mazen. In
this conflict everyone has to take a stand. We are taking
a stand; the pragmatic elements have made decisions that
are very brave for them. The world also needs to take a stand
and the Arab world needs to take an unequivocal stand that
supports the pragmatic elements with whom we are negotiating,
and let the Palestinian people determine its fate and support
it. This is also based on past experience.
The international
community, in parallel, as the other supportive circle, needs
to support the bilateral process as well and let it advance,
because in the end the two peoples are the ones who will
have to make the decisions. There is no need for mediators,
arbitrators, for pushing people up slopes or bridging the
gaps. In the end the decisions will have to be ours, but
the international community can work with and help the Palestinians.
The Palestinians need support building up their capabilities,
building their legal and governmental institutions, and taking
actions that will instill some kind of economic hope, also
in the Palestinian public, which will understand that supporting
moderates elicits immediate returns. As we progress with
the dialogue from the top, we will see changes on the ground,
and so, I hope, we can find at the end of this process not
only a partner for dialogue, not only a partner for an agreement
on paper, but also a partner in an effective government that
knows how to enforce its authority throughout its territory.
The international community has a significant role to play
in this context.
And so
we embark on this road with these three components of the
process. I didn’t come here to sell pipe dreams, or
to make anyone give up, Heaven forbid. I believe that what
I am doing today, what we are doing, reflects the Israeli
interest in full. I believe that the way we are conducting
ourselves reflects not only the Israeli interest but also
the broad Israeli consensus. I stopped thinking in terms
of right and left long ago, even though people try to pin
all sorts of labels on us. I am not entering this process
to prove we do not have a partner. I hope we do have a partner,
and I hope we can reach an agreement with them. As we conduct
the dialogue with the goal of reaching understandings, we
can see if this partner is also one for the implementation.
I know what we can do and what we need to do, and I also
believe that if we do it right, if we make progress based
on the principles I have outlined here, despite the sea of
cynicism all around us, we will receive the public support
that we need for this kind of process.
As has
long been my custom when concluding, let me say that I hope
and look forward to our succeeding in making the proper decisions
and having the strength to carry them out.
Thank you
very much.